Paul Thinks Jack was a Warm Lutheran
P: I would say yeah I think that's accurate. I think dad was a warm Lutheran. #1:14:24.5#
M: But Jack says he's not a Lutheran. #1:14:27.6#
P: He is though. That's my I mean it was you know when I discovered that was in '90 when I was doing a Sonship thing for the the OPC Presbytery the Philadelphia Presbytery and Will Barker came up to me afterwards and says every every twenty or thirty years the church needs a good dose of Luther, of Lutheran theology and it was my first really what what are you talking about.
And so I mulled on that and in my reading I I would it just didn't, in the whole you know because then in the there was a lot of interesting dynamics as Sonship emerged within World Harvest even that were duplicated in the church. Bob Heppe and I were both very, and Bob was a real devotee of N. T. Wright. #1:15:21.7#
P: Good good. That'll be a great discussion. So Bob and I mentioned this to you by email. So Bob and I both begin to react around '91 to Sonship and to to Sonship culture. And some of the Sonship teaching. And particularly I got a little concerned with and I don't think you know. Stop it for a second. And also Rick Downs and I did this I was really concerned with Rick Downs teaching. #1:16:0.9#
P: And I would just also my other clarification is I I would I would say Lutheran tendencies you know. #1:17:44.4#
P: By that and and again you have to, there's the whole difference between Luther and Lutheranism you know.. #1:17:50.3#
P: Which is huge because many have said Calvin is Luther's best disciple. #1:17:54.7#
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